“Parents think that media literacy means knowing when someone has actually fake news versus facts. What media literacy and organizations like the News Literacy Project [are doing is] brainwashing children to not listen to independent journalists or organizations like Epoch, or like what Chris Rufo is doing, ... and to instead only go back to the mainstream media.”
In this episode, I sit down with Alvin Lui, a bona fide magician-turned-parental rights advocate, to understand the latest woke programming making its way into K-12 education.
“The Biden administration just had this agency that’s now proposing to do home visits to parents who are homeschooling their kids—for parents who don’t believe in the ideology—because the children might be abused at home, because the parents don’t believe that they can be born in the wrong body. So that’s the next wave. That’s the next move,” says Mr. Lui.
He is the founder of Courage Is a Habit, which provides practical tools and resources to counter woke indoctrination in schools.
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“We very rarely say that we’re going to fight for someone’s children. We always say we’re going to teach you to fight for yours, because that is every parent’s God-given responsibility,” says Mr. Lui. “‘Responsible decision-making’ means something very different to parents than what these ideologues are doing in schools. They use your vocabulary, not your dictionary.”
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FULL TRANSCRIPT
Jan Jekielek: Alvin Lui, such a pleasure to have you back on American Thought leaders.
Alvin Lui: Thank you for having me. It was an honor last time, and I’m happy to see you again.
Mr. Jekielek: It has been about a year since our last interview. I continue to be amazed and inspired by the materials that you create for parents at Courage is a Habit. You’re a non-profit, but there’s a kind of magic to it, isn’t there?
Mr. Lui: We like to think so. We like to inspire people to stand up for their children and adopt Courage is a Habit in their homes. We very rarely say that we’re going to fight for someone’s children. We always say that we are going to teach you to fight for your own children, because that is every parent’s God-given responsibility. We believe that parents, above anybody else, are the first, last, and best line of defense to protect and teach their children. It’s certainly not the public schools.
Mr. Jekielek: You call your organization Courage is a Habit. Please explain why.
Mr. Lui: When I first started speaking to parents in Indiana, after a few months I started to open my speeches a certain way. I said, “Now everybody here is probably pretty successful in some way or another. You’ve bought houses, you’ve started businesses, and you’ve raised families. Why do you have to come to an event on a week night to listen to a stranger explain to you how to protect your children?”
Everyone knows how to protect their children. People have crossed oceans and deserts just to give their children a better life. It’s innate in us to protect our children. What’s so special about today is that someone can point a finger at your face, call you a transphobe, or a racist, or a bigot, and all of a sudden you can’t stand up for your children.
I explain this because we’ve made fear a habit. For years these woke ideologies made people feel guilt over nothing. They made people feel like they’re not being kind or inclusive enough or diverse enough. Everybody just gave a little, then gave a little bit more. They said, “Alright, I‘ll put that rainbow sticker on my laptop. Alright, I’ll put that black square on my social media.” Then now when they’re coming for your children, fear has already become a habit.
I told them, “The good news is courage is also a habit.” Every time you want to say something and you wonder, “What is my coworker going to think? What is my family going to think? What are my social media people going to think?” Your heart’s coming out of your chest, but you say it anyway. It may not feel like it, but next time, it gets a little bit easier.
Mr. Jekielek: It’s like a muscle, which is an analogy I’ve heard. You just have to work it out a little bit.
Mr. Lui: Everybody knows that if you’re trying to get in shape, lose weight, or gain muscle, that means going to the gym, doing certain things, and eating a certain way. If you go to the gym for one week and then look in the mirror, nothing’s going to happen. Now, we can’t tell you exactly when because everyone’s body is different, but we know that if you’re consistent enough over the course of a year, you will look different, whatever your goals may be. You just don’t know when that is going to happen.
Courage is the same thing. Maybe some people say, “After the 10th time of speaking up, I don’t feel that fear anymore. I don’t care if someone calls me a racist or a transphobe.” For someone else it will take the 15th or 20th time. I can’t tell you when, but I can tell you if you make that a habit, you will not feel that fear if you do it consistently enough. That’s why we call the organization Courage is a Habit.
Mr. Jekielek: What has your work focused on over the last year? There is ideological capture in the institutions, especially in the K-12 schools that you focus on. How have people’s attitudes changed? Are we moving in the right direction or the wrong direction?
Mr. Lui: We are absolutely moving in the right direction. Two years ago, or even a year ago, the way people were talking about standing up for this was a lot more defensive. Today, people are a lot more offence-minded because they understand that the people coming after our children are not having an honest conversation.
Mr. Jekielek: What do you mean by “the people coming after our children”?
Mr. Lui: There are organizations, NGOs, and government entities coming into K-12 public education and into colleges that are inserting programs into schools. A big one is social emotional learning. It’s a Trojan horse disguised as mental health that rewires and rewrites a child’s values and worldviews. It has brought critical race theory, the transgender cult, the climate change activism, and all the pornography into the schools.
It’s that and more. It’s anything that’s very radical that they want to insert in a child’s mind. They can do it under this emotional health, social-emotional learning type of programming. When it first started coming in, when we started talking about this in 2019 and 2020, nobody knew what to say about it. It sounded like you just wanted kids to feel included. Of course, you want kids to feel included. Now we see that parents are saying, “Okay, I get the scam. I get the psychological gambit. It’s not about inclusion, and it’s not about diversity.”
A year ago, we were talking very tactically about what was happening. Instead of only focusing on the technical aspect of what’s happening to children, during 2023, we have really focused on how parents are the ones who were brainwashed first. We’ve been teaching parents and training parents in two ways.
The first way is to show how they’ve weaponized your kindness. They use words that no parent would ever disagree with, like empathy, compassion, and inclusiveness. Parents didn’t understand that those words were used to get them to either stand down because of guilt, or go away because they thought, “Yes, the schools are truly teaching that.”
For example, what they really mean by empathy is not what parents commonly teach their little kids; “Put yourself in someone else’s shoes. How would you feel if that happened to you?” It’s if a man walks into a women’s restroom, and a young girl has a negative reaction, they say, “No, you need to have empathy for him because he’s marginalized.” That’s weaponizing kindness. The second thing that we teach parents about is language contamination. The easiest way to describe language contamination is that they use your vocabulary, but not your dictionary.
Mr. Jekielek: They use your vocabulary against you. Parents don’t actually understand their definition of the word. With something like Title IX, which is supposed to provide protections for women, if you just change the definition slightly, it can actually have the exact opposite effect.
Mr. Lui: That’s right. They do that in K-12 in a variety of ways, by using your vocabulary, but not your dictionary. I'll give you one example; responsible decision-making. Who doesn’t want responsible decision-making in their children’s lives? All good parents teach that.
When most parents think about responsible decision-making, it’s about making your bed, doing your homework, and listening to your parents. When you get a little older, it’s about driving responsibly and having good credit. The people that are pushing the critical race theory and transgender ideology, for them responsible decision-making means that if you’re white and reach voting age, you have to vote for reparations. That’s their so-called responsible decision-making. If you’re not white, then it’s your responsibility to dismantle the system. You need to go into an office and say, “How come there’s not enough representation? How come the bathrooms aren’t inclusive?”
Responsible decision-making means something very different to parents than what these ideologues are doing in the schools. They use your vocabulary, but not your dictionary. This is what we teach parents about. Every time a school tells you, “We’re just teaching this. That’s all,” ask yourself this one question, “Through whose lens is that trait being taught?” Traits are not good or bad by nature. We infuse positive or negative connotations to traits, because we are a civilized society. We are kind people.
Here’s an example. Sometimes you get these manhunts for these serial killers. Police chase them for months, maybe even years, and they finally catch them. Then the community breathes a sigh of relief, because they’ve caught this serial killer. He’s off the streets and people are safe again. But you'll notice that every time we catch a serial killer, people don’t say, “That guy, he’s a good goal setter. He had a goal, and unfortunately he exceeded some goals.”
“He had tenacity, he was resourceful, he led a police on a manhunt for six months or a year, and they couldn’t catch him. He never gave up. He had grit. He went after victim number five and waited for her night after night. He could never get in her house until he found a way.”
We don’t use terms like “grit”, “goal setting”, “tenacity”, “resourcefulness” to describe a serial killer. But if you think about it, doesn’t he have all those traits? He absolutely does. He’s just applied them in a terrible way.
Traits are not inherently good or bad. There is no negative or positive, they are just traits. It depends on who’s using them. It depends on who’s teaching them. This is why we ask parents, “Through whose lens are those traits being taught in schools?”
Unfortunately, today in public K-12 schools, those traits are taught through the lens of a critical race theorist, and a transgender cult recruiter. We’ve done some work this past year on private schools and found schools with $30,000 to $50,000 a year tuition are just as bad as any public K-12 that we have seen.
Mr. Jekielek: How did you get into this advocacy in the first place? Actually, your real occupation is magician and illusionist.
Mr. Lui: I am, that’s true. For most of my life I have been a professional illusionist and magician, mostly for high-end parties, corporate events, trade shows in Vegas, and things of that nature. I loved it. It was something that I really wanted to do since I was a little boy. It was something that I thought I would do for the rest of my life.
I moved my family from California to Indiana because I really didn’t want to raise children in California. I just didn’t want to fight anymore. California was long gone. To me, it was lost, and I didn’t want to spend my life fighting.
A lot of people, until they have kids, really don’t understand just how awful the crime and the schools were. I love Indiana and most of these red states that are extremely well-run. But I saw the same seeds planted that ruined my old home, and I saw them in the schools. It was like watching an old movie all over again, except that it went back 20 years for me.
I thought I had another 20 years, but I was wrong. It is now maybe less than 10 years because things move quickly now. The indoctrination of children moves a lot faster now. I always say that people aren’t leaving in the dead of night on a boat escaping from the United States to go to Cuba or Venezuela.
If this country goes the way it has been going with these systems already being torn down, and with the children being weaponized like in Mao Zedong’s Red Guard, there’s really nowhere else for my children to go. There’s nowhere else for your children or anybody’s children to go if America goes down. The decision to focus on this rather than what I’ve done most of my life was not an easy one for sure.
But if I’m asking parents to sacrifice, to give up things, and to stand up for the children just a little bit, I felt like I had to give up something that I really loved first, so that I’m not being a hypocrite. For the longest time, I focused on what I was doing with Courage is a Habit, almost ignoring that other side of what I used to do. But I still think like an illusionist, because there is no other way I can think.
When I see these psychological gambits, this sleight of mouth, these things they do to parents, I see how effective they are, because I spent most of my life keeping secrets in the guise of entertainment. The difference is when you’re an illusionist and people come to your show, they voluntarily suspend disbelief so that they can be entertained. They are entertained for an hour, and then go home.
But the woke ideology is not letting the parents go. They’re holding them hostage. They’re inserting that illusion over and over and over again, through academia, through the media, through social media, and through movies. It’s a constant barrage, and there’s no theater to leave. This is happening to parents, to good people, to business owners, and to everyone.
Mr. Jekielek: With magicians and illusionists, it’s all about sleight of hand. What would be an example of an illusion that’s maintained this way?
Mr. Lui: How about I show you a quick, simple illusion? The common word describing what we do is misdirection. People always think it’s misdirection, but the secret that magicians don’t talk about is that it’s really misattention. Misdirection basically says, “Look over here and I’m going to do this.” But the problem is that misdirection is not a very sophisticated way to get your moves across. I‘ll give you an example, and then I’ll show you an illusion.
If I was going to rob you and take your wallet, I could point a gun at you and mug you. That’s a very vulgar way to take your wallet. It works, because you’re seeing the gun. You’re going to give me your wallet, but the problem is you could fight back. Someone could see me, or you could call the cops as soon as I leave. It’s a very ugly way to take your wallet, and it doesn’t take any skill to mug you.
The other way I can take your wallet is to pick your pocket. Now, that takes a lot of skill. That takes misattention, not misdirection. I’m going to have a pretty woman come up and ask you for directions. Someone is going to spill something on your jacket or bump into you. Someone is going to ask you something and hold your attention, then I can take your wallet. You may not even know it for 30 minutes or an hour. Maybe you think you dropped it, or maybe it is in another jacket.
By the time you realize that you’ve been pickpocketed and you call the cops, I’m long gone. That’s what is happening today. They’re not going to the family home, not yet anyway, and saying, “We’re going to grab your kids and throw them into the gender clinic.” They’re saying, “If you don’t let your child take that puberty blocker, they’re going to kill themselves.” That’s misattention, and it’s a much more sophisticated way to get parents to give up their children.
Mr. Jekielek: What is the trick you want to show me?
Mr. Lui: We’re going to get it on camera. All right. I want you to just examine these two rubber bands. Go ahead and take a look at them.
Mr. Jekielek: They seem like legit, normal rubber bands.
Mr. Lui: Now, these are the rubber bands that I got from your office, by the way. These are not my rubber bands. Okay. I’m going to show you a classic of magic, which is a solid passing through a solid.
I’m going to take the band, and we'll drop it right behind here. Now, a solid can’t pass through a solid and we know this, right? I can’t come out this way or this way. I can’t go down, I can’t go up, and I can’t come out this way. Now, I want you to feel that. Is that really locked in there? This is not an illusion. You can actually feel that.
Mr. Jekielek: Yes, absolutely.
Mr. Lui: Everybody watching this can see that stretch and see that tension on the two rubber bands, because a solid can’t pass through a solid, right? If I give it a rub here, you can see it almost slowly melt through just like that.
Mr. Jekielek: That’s astonishing. I don’t know how you did that.
Mr. Lui: I hope not.
Mr. Jekielek: I literally don’t know how you did that.
Mr. Lui: That’s an example of misattention.
Mr. Jekielek: I don’t know what you did exactly, but I know that the solid didn’t pass through the solid.
Mr. Lui: Sure, of course not.
Mr. Jekielek: How long did it take you to teach yourself how to do that?
Mr. Lui: That particular move there, probably six months and losing a lot of rubber bands and unexpectedly snapping people a lot.
Mr. Jekielek: This takes skill, and this is what you were talking about. That’s a big commitment to a rubber band trick.
Mr. Lui: It’s a lot of commitment to just one illusion. It’s one trick, it takes a lot of commitment, but there’s so much that goes on there. There’s obviously the physical sleight of hand, but there’s also a lot of misattention. There’s also a lot of leading the audience to where I want them to focus. Now on camera, it’s going to probably look a little different. When you do it live, you can move people’s attention where you want to.
Sadly, a lot of the things that illusion is used for in entertainment, we’re now seeing in the public discourse, in the way they talk about Covid, vaccines, masks, J6, police brutality, and all the stuff that we are seeing in schools. You see that there is a pornography in schools, but these people will call it book banning.
When they do surveys, they will say, “Do you agree with banning books?” Close to 90 percent of parents say “No”. But that’s sleight of mouth. They don’t ask, “Do you agree with pictures of sex acts in middle schools and high schools? Do you agree with books telling second graders that they can be born in the wrong body?”
They don’t ask those questions. They ask, “Do you agree with banning books?” That’s sleight of mouth. That’s asking the question in a way where you can get the desired answer. In magic, we often do that. We ask the questions in a way where we can get the answer that we want.
Mr. Jekielek: There was a learning process for you to figure out the trick and perform it with confidence. Is there a learning process that is similar for these people who are so committed to taking over the education system? You described them as the Red Guard staging a cultural revolution. But it’s not necessarily like there was a ready-to-go program for this today. There has been a learning process. Have you thought about that?
Mr. Lui: Yes, weaponizing your kindness is one thing they have learned. At the time of Mao in China, there was a huge famine. There was such a huge black hole that he took advantage of it to maintain power.
America is still a first world country. We have a Constitution. Our life here is pretty good, even though the middle class is shrinking. We don’t have this gigantic vacuum that these present-day Marxists could take advantage of, so they had to create one.
The best way to create one is to cause chaos. There are many ways to cause chaos, but dismantling the family, businesses, and systems is one of the most effective ways. They can’t just come in and say, “Hey, I want your children. Your children are born in the wrong body.” They can’t do that. That’s mugging. That’s pulling a gun and taking your wallet, which is very vulgar.
This is how they learned to do it and this is their process. They will want to put a rainbow sticker in the schools, and then some parents go, “Why are you putting up a rainbow sticker that represents things I don’t believe in?” They will say, “Don’t you want all kids to feel included? What’s the big deal? You’re making a big deal out of nothing.”
Then the parents will think, “Okay, kind people should let them put up a sticker.” Then they will release an equity statement or a non anti-bullying statement. Parents will say, ”Why are you putting that in? If someone is bullying, you punish them. We have rules for that in place at school. Why do you need such a statement?”
They will say, “Don’t you want kids to feel safe? We want the community to come together.” The parents will submit again, “Okay, fine. Do the statement.” Then they keep pushing and pushing to the point where now you’ve actually got school counselors saying that the parents are abusive and unsafe.
The Biden administration has an agency that is now proposing to do home visits to parents who are homeschooling and don’t believe in this ideology. They claim that these children might be abused at home, because the parents don’t believe that they could be born in the wrong body.
That’s the next wave. That’s the next move coming at home schooling, claiming that the parents are unsafe and abusive. They say, “Don’t you want kids to feel safe?” It’s the same psychological gambit. It’s called compliance. I'll give you another example from my old world, especially when you’re doing close-up magic.
When you’re doing stage magic, you control the stage and then there’s the lights and you bring people up. But largely, when you bring people up on a stage, they don’t really do anything. They’re just touching the props, but there’s nothing they can do to break anything.
But when you do close-up magic or parlor magic, people are really in your space and they feel like they can touch and do things. If I see somebody and I want them to hold something and I’m not sure if they’re going to listen to my instructions or not, I'll just ask them this one simple question, “Are you right-handed or left-handed?” If the person goes, “Oh, I’m right-handed,” then that’s compliance number one.
Then I‘ll say, “Okay, go ahead and put out your right hand,” and I’m going to give them something to hold. If they put out their right hand and I put something on their hand and they don’t mess with it, I’ll know that it’s safe to give them something that might reveal the delusion or the magic trick.
Sometimes I ask them if they’re right-handed or left-handed, and the person will say, “Why?” I then know that I can’t give that person anything. If they say, “Right-handed,” I'll say, “Put out your right hand,” and then they purposely put out their left hand, they’re not buying into the process of the trick.
If they do that, then I'll give them something to hold, but it won’t matter what I give them. They will then mess with it and do all these different things to it. It ends up that those people actually become very helpful to an illusionist, because it seems like they’re looking at everything closely.
Then when the illusion works out anyway, the audience goes, “Man, this guy was really messing with him and couldn’t find anything.” It actually adds to it. But with new magicians starting off, they get very nervous dealing with a person like that, because they think that person is going to mess them up.
Therefore, you have to learn how to test compliance. That’s what is happening to parents today, like the example I gave you with the stickers. They will say, “Come on. It’s just a sticker. What’s the big deal?” Now you have learned what parents are going to be okay with it.
Mr. Jekielek: And which parents are asking for written statements or whatever it is.
Mr. Lui: That’s their, “Are you right-handed or left-handed?” Their compliance test is, “It’s just a sticker. What’s the big deal?” That’s their process. I am seeing this happen to people on a national and global level using a lot of the same psychological gambits that we use entertainment. To be honest with you, it has been very disheartening.
Mr. Jekielek: It’s almost like this compliance has become a habit.
Mr. Lui: Yes, that’s a good way to put it. That will be the next non-profit I start, Compliance is a Habit. I'll give you credit for it.
Mr. Jekielek: For whatever reason, we are in a society where compliance is enshrined. Please tell us about some of the materials that you’ve developed that make it easier for parents to understand all this.
Mr. Lui: At the end of the day, we produce products and tools and strategies that are easy to consume, and that are graphically very beautiful. We distill it down to things that the average parent can understand. They don’t have to spend 10 hours reading it. Most importantly, we always give them a call to action. That’s what Courage is a Habit really is about—action. It’s about staying on offense.
There’s a couple of things last year I was really extremely proud of. One of them was exposing what 99 percent of parents still don’t know, and it’s called media literacy. We have a product called the Mainstream Misinformation Infiltration that features an organization called the News Literacy Project. Now, just because your school doesn’t use them specifically does not mean they’re not using this scam called media literacy, but the product that we produce exposes them.
They call themselves non-partisan, but every journalist, every ambassador, and every leader that they have is extremely Left-wing. They tout these people as non-partisan and that they are credible sources. Today, many states already have a media literacy program. Here comes the language contamination, the word literacy.
What parent doesn’t want their child to be literate? In fact, we have a horrible literacy rate right now for reading. But when they say “media literacy”, the way they sell it to parents is, “There’s so much going on in social media today. Don’t you want your kids to be able to decipher between misinformation and facts?”
Parents say, “Of course I do.” It’s just like when they used to ask parents, “Don’t you want kids to feel included?” It’s the same psychological gambit, just different words. Now, parents think that media literacy means knowing what is fake news vs. the true facts.
A media literacy organization like the News Literacy Project is brainwashing children to not listen to independent media like the Epoch Times or independent journalists like Chris Rufo, but instead to only go back to mainstream media, because they know that people’s trust in the mainstream media is all but zero.
You can walk down the street and even ask people who are not very political, “Do you trust the mainstream media?” Most of them will say, “No, not really,” because they have lied over and over again. For those people who were pretty blind to it originally, Covid certainly woke up a lot of people with the masks and the vaccines.
With the media literacy programs in school, they’re currently telling students to continue listening to three-letter government agencies and mainstream media. That’s what media literacy means in the schools today. There’s already four or five states that are mandating it as a graduation requirement and about 15 states that have it in some way, shape or form. It’s increasing, and they’re going to try to get into all 50 states.
Mr. Jekielek: This specific program promotes corporate legacy media as being the sole source of truthful information, correct?
Mr. Lui: That’s exactly right. Guess who is supporting an organization like the News Literacy Project? It’s all the legacy media, NBC, CBS, and CNN. They even tout BuzzFeed as one of their credible sources. They’ve got these journalists who are completely Left-wing and claim they are non-partisan.
Mr. Jekielek: Many of them believe in so-called advocacy journalism, which is another way of saying propaganda creation. There is an accepted narrative, and the media should reflect that narrative. It’s very difficult for people to understand that this type of journalism is being taught in many of the top journalism schools today.
Mr. Lui: That’s exactly what is in K-12 today, and increasingly the trend is to make it a graduation requirement. If you can brainwash children to go back to listening to mainstream media again, that is absolutely dangerous, because now they can feed these kids anything they want to. They won’t even take the time to look at independent journalists that are doing really good work and good documentaries and good reporting, because there is no critical thinking in schools right now.
Mr. Jekielek: We’ve learned over the past few years how powerful that type of indoctrination can be. Even with so many people realizing that the mainstream media is not very credible, it is still effective.
Mr. Lui: It is, absolutely.
Mr. Jekielek: Which states are pushing this so-called media literacy ?
Mr. Lui: California, New Jersey, Delaware, and Texas. These four states also have graduation requirements. Almost every state has some form of it, and some states are funding it more. Maine is pushing it now in the next session. Even if you don’t live in one of those four states that currently have it as a graduation requirement, it is very likely that your school or your state education board already has some form of media literacy. You have to just search your state’s education website and type in “media literacy”, and there will probably be some sort of program, whether they use the News Literacy Project or not.
Go to your school and ask, “Show me the organization that you’re using for this media literacy program.” Then of course, you want to opt your children out of those classes. Even more important than that, I advise parents to get 10 or 15 other parents together to go in and push back against your school to say, “This should not be a graduation requirement,” because if you don’t get enough people to push back, the school is going to try to run you around.
Likely, this is still in the earlier stages compared to all the other indoctrination programs. It doesn’t take a lot, just 10 or 15 parents, and you can push back on this. This is just starting into your school and it hasn’t baked in hard yet. This is the time to push back while we’ve caught something very early. We caught it this year, and we caught it when they were about a year into it. Now. they’re about a year-and-a-half into doing their program. They have a four-year plan to get into all 50 states.
Mr. Jekielek: Alvin, as we finish up, when you’re approaching the education of your kids, you have to assume that nothing is what it seems and dig a little deeper and act to remove your kids from situations where you believe indoctrination is happening.
Mr. Lui: We talk about the system being dismantled, but we have to accept that the system has already been dismantled. We’re not preventing them from dismantling the system, we’re preventing them from rebuilding it into their own image. It’s like a person’s body being possessed by demons. It still looks like your brother, but it’s no longer your brother. He has been possessed by a demon or a spirit, if you watch zombie movies.
Today, when we look at institutions like the American Academy of Pediatrics, USA Boxing, K-12 schools, or any of the companies like Bud Light or Target, when they say they will dismantle them, we assume that means to eliminate them. We think they’re going to tear down these systems and eliminate them. That is not what they’re doing. They’re tearing them down from the inside, rebuilding them, and infusing them with this ideology. But the outside still looks the same.
This is why people say, “The American Academy of Pediatrics says it’s okay to trans kids and they are the experts. They’ve been around for a long time, so you’re not going to listen to the American Academy of Pediatrics?” They didn’t change the name. This logo still looks the same, but it’s no longer the same system.
It’s like the American School Counselor Associations. One of the things Courage is a Habit is known for is exposing the school counselors. The American School Counselor Association has been around for a long time. They’ve been around for decades, but it wasn’t until 2014 that they started transforming into these social justice activists.
They are still called the American School Counselor Association. Their logo hasn’t changed, but their mission has changed. It is the same thing with Bud Light or Target. Think about how long Bud Light has been around. The all-girls St. Mary’s College has been around for 186 years. Last year, they wanted to enroll men into college. They lost a ton of donors, so they pulled back. For 186 years, St. Mary’s College, an all-girls college, never thought about letting a man in, but they did this year and they paid for it.
This is not a message of negativity or doom and gloom. This is actually a message of hope. The reason why this is a message of hope is that if we continue to try to hold on to something that we think we can save and bring it back, that’s living in limbo, and that’s living in a false reality. It’s not going to help anybody.
In fact, that’s going to help us fight in the wrong way. We have to accept that the system has already been taken over. It’s already been dismantled. The dismantling is done. We are now in the rebuilding phase.
The only question is, “Are we going to stop them from rebuilding in their image, or are we going to win and get them out of these institutions so that we can rebuild them in the way they should be?” We should rebuild them based on the Constitution and based on American values.
Mr. Jekielek: I am thinking about Bill Ackman’s recent activism at Harvard. You’re watching in slow motion the realization that, “Wow, DEI is really not DEI.” What do you make of that? Do you see this as an inflection point?
Mr. Lui: Yes, I do.
Mr. Jekielek: Please tell us about that.
Mr. Lui: This is actually a conversation that I’ve been having the last few days. We call it DIE, we don’t actually call it DEI. We call it D-I-E, right? Everything DEI touches dies. But what’s interesting is that we have now pulled people from all walks of life that should not even be interested in this fight. Bill Ackman is a Wall Street guy.
You have older men and women from Korea and China that just want to live their life here. You’ve got people who are painters and artists. You’ve got people who are architects. You’ve got people who are biologists. You’ve got people who are just doing their thing. They were perfectly happy going about their lives, doing their passion, doing their careers, and having nothing to do with this.
Now, we have all these great minds. These are people that don’t believe in equity. These are people that believe in self-preservation, risk-taking, hard work, taking risks, and not blaming everybody else by saying, “There’s white supremacy. There’s oppression.” These are people that don’t believe that. These are people who are actually very high achieving in their field coming together in the same room and asking, “How do we beat this?”
This is my message of hope. These woke ideologists, these DIE people, these critical race theorists, these intersectionality people, these people that want to just continue to tear down America, the mistake they made is doing what they did, and being so insufferable and narcissistic, brought in some of the best minds and the hardest workers that were never interested in this space.
Someone like myself, who is an entertainer and entertains for a living, why am I sitting here with a wonderful journalist? These days, I’m often with people that I never would’ve never met who are a lot smarter than a magician doing tricks for people. We are now all taking our skills and experience and putting them into this fight and helping average, hard working Americans every day. We are saying, “Yes, you can do something too.”
Mr. Jekielek: Alvin Lui, it’s so good to have you on the show again.
Mr. Lui: Thank you for having me. It was an honor.
Mr. Jekielek: Thank you all for joining Alvin Lui and me on this episode of American Thought Leaders. I’m your host, Jan Jekielek.
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